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[Plain of the Herbs]

Here's one to occupy ye're minds.

James Dempsey and Stephen Egan both made their league debuts against Waterford, but what other hurlers have been handed NHL debuts by the current managhement.

There are 19 by my calculation (including Dempsey and Egan).

Over to ye . . .

[leinsterman]

thats a hard one well i will have ago anyway
1james dempsey
2 stephen egan
3 Eoin kelly
4 stephen wynne
5 derek morkan
6 diarmuid horan
7 conor mahon
8 ger healion
9 enna murphy
10 daniel currams
11 james o'gorman
12 colm coughlan
13 shane kelly
14 damien kilmartin
15 brian leonard
16 odhran kealey
17 fergal daly
18 micheal verney
19 francis kerrigan
20 brian coughlan

[leinsterman]

thats a hard one well i will have ago anyway
1james dempsey
2 stephen egan
3 Eoin kelly
4 stephen wynne
5 derek morkan
6 diarmuid horan
7 conor mahon
8 ger healion
9 enna murphy
10 daniel currams
11 james o'gorman
12 colm coughlan
13 shane kelly
14 damien kilmartin
15 brian leonard
16 odhran kealey
17 fergal daly
18 micheal verney
19 francis kerrigan
20 brian coughlan

21 ciaran flannery
22 trevor corcoran

[gunnerman]

Mark Egan - Belmont

[leinsterman]

Mark Egan - Belmont

Yes you are correctly gunnerman forgot about mark egan came on against kerry last year in tullamore
that would make it 23 so. i don't know about trevor corcoran john mcintyre had him on the panel in 2007
but i don't know did he get a run in any match in the league. he came on as a sub again limerick in 2008
league match under joe dooley alright. mick verney is another one iam a bit unsure about maybe
plain of the herbs will give his 19 we should know then.

[Bord na Mona man]

i don't know about trevor corcoran john mcintyre had him on the panel in 2007
but i don't know did he get a run in any match in the league. he came on as a sub again limerick in 2008
league match under joe dooley alright.

Trevor Corcoran came on as a sub against Wexford in the 2007 league.

mick verney is another one iam a bit unsure about

Michael Verney also played several league games in 2007 as well as coming on against Dublin in the championship.

[leinsterman]

right so that leave's us with 21 player's then, can't think of another player that played league under joe dooley.

[Plain of the Herbs]

Leinsterman listed 22, of which 18 are correct. Gunnerman was correct with Mark Egan, so we have all 19. Over to you, Leinsterman - which four are incorrect

right so that leave's us with 21 player's then, can't think of another player that played league under joe dooley.

[Plain of the Herbs]

The 19 who made their league debuts under Joe Dooley are:-

Tipperary 2008: Diarmuid Horan, Conor Mahon, Daniel Currams, Francis Kerrigan (sub).
Galway 2008: Brian Leonard, Ger Healion (sub).
Limerick 2008: Ciaran Flannery (sub), Damien Kilmartin (sub), James Gorman (sub), Stephen Wynne (sub).
Westmeath 2009: Colm Coughlan (sub), Derek Morkan (sub).
Kerry 2009: Mark Egan (sub).
Carlow 2009: Eanna Murphy (sub), Brian Coughlan (sub).
Cork 2010: Eoin Kelly.
Kilkenny 2010: Odhran Kealey (sub).
Waterford 2010: James Dempsey, Stephen Egan (sub).

Interesting point 1. That 7 of those 19 listed above were not called up this year for one reason or another (that's not counting Diarmuid Horan).

Interesting point 2. That only 6 of those were given a starting berth on their debuts. Two of those were goalkeepers.

[Plain of the Herbs]

Just for comparison I’ve had a look at the hurlers who made NHL debuts during John McIntyre’s tenure as manager. He gave 21 first starts but in contrast to Joe Dooley, 14 of those made 21 their debuts as starters.

It should also be noted that McIntyre never had to ‘do without’ the Birr contingent owing to club commitments. Each had a year in division 2.

Oh, and 8 of McIntyre’s 21 fledglings are still on the scene. The full list is:-

Derry 2005: Damien McDermott, Daniel Hoctor, Cathal Parlon (sub), Peter Healion (sub), Kevin Grogan (sub), Martin Corcoran (sub).
Westmeath 2005: Liam Bergin jnr (sub), Harry Ryan (sub).
Cork 2006: Brendan O’Meara, Paul Cleary, Joseph Bergin, Alan Egan.
Cork 2007: Conor Hernon, Michael Verney, Cathal Horan, David Kenny, Eddie Bevans, Derek Molloy, Shane Dooley, James Rigney (sub).
Wexford 2007: Trevor Corcoran.

[leinsterman]

Leinsterman listed 22, of which 18 are correct. Gunnerman was correct with Mark Egan, so we have all 19. Over to you, Leinsterman - which four are incorrect

right so that leave's us with 21 player's then, can't think of another player that played league under joe dooley.

i didn't do to bad i was unsure about verney and trevor corcoran, did shane kelly not come on near the end of the cork game,
i got mixed up with fergal daly he came on in the win over kilkenny in the walsh cup.

[Plain of the Herbs]

K Brady, Currams & Molloy were the only 3 subs used against Cork, according to the paper, Hoganstand and the official Offaly GAA site. That's good enough for me.

i didn't do to bad i was unsure about verney and trevor corcoran, did shane kelly not come on near the end of the cork game,
i got mixed up with fergal daly he came on in the win over kilkenny in the walsh cup.

[leinsterman]

NOW i know were ye got yer information from POTH and Bord na mona man its on this site hurler outlook.
i like a big thick going threw all the programme's of the matche's in the league under joe since 2008
and it was here under my nose on this site. well you learn something new everyday don't ya.

[Bord na Mona man]

NOW i know were ye got yer information from POTH and Bord na mona man its on this site hurler outlook.
i like a big thick going threw all the programme's of the matche's in the league under joe since 2008
and it was here under my nose on this site. well you learn something new everyday don't ya.

Why go through the wall if there is an unlocked door...

[corner back]

did shane kelly not come on near the end of the cork game,
.

Not 100% but I think you're right there. Appearance was very brief as a blood sub